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While working at home today I was “lucky” enough to get a call from one of those scammers who rings your house and offers you technical assistance with your PC.

There’s a decent write-up over here on the Guardian’s website of the sort of scam we’re talking about and there are some examples over here of actual conversations where people have been much better than me in that they managed to record the call.

The call ran something like this;

  1. There was an awful lot of “Hello! Hello!” which seemed to go on for quite a while – if you’re going to telephone scam people I recommend investing in a decent headset.
  2. The initial “engineer” told me that he was ringing about the problems that I had with my computer and then remembered to check whether I had a computer and whether I had any problems with it. I said that I did. I’ve got lots of computers and they all have their problems Winking smile I guessed where we might be heading.
  3. He also mentioned “Microsoft” quite a lot and talked about how it’s likely that the warranty on my computer’s software (?) might have “expired” thereby “opening it up to lots of viruses and problems being downloaded from the internet”.
  4. He then led me on a course of diagnostics which involved me finding the CTRL key on my keyboard ( “I want you to look at the keyboard and press the key in the bottom left corner” ) and, from there, to the Windows key and used the R shortcut to get a Run dialog.
  5. He then ran the event viewer.
  6. Once in the event viewer he encouraged me to scroll up and down and count up how many “little yellow triangles” and “little red circles” I could see. I reported that I could see “hundreds”.
  7. He explained that the triangles and circles represented viruses and that they “multiply every twenty four hours” which I found a little bit frightening although I did wonder why they waited so long and what they were doing for the rest of each day Smile
  8. Once “the problem” was clearly demonstrated he handed me over to his supervisor who was a “Microsoft Registered Technician”.
  9. The registered technician checked that I had understood the nature of the problem and then proceeded to get me to run up a browser and go to http://logmein123.com and he wanted me to type in a passcode up there ( 843718 ). Note – I haven’t tried to login on that website and I’ve no idea what kind of malware lurks behind it. You have been warned.

At this point, I decided that I didn’t want to log in to the site so I stalled for a while and then started to ask the supervisor whether it was risky to log in to this site and I mentioned that it didn’t look like a Microsoft site and couldn’t they have spent a little more money on the branding of it?

This opened up the general question of budgets at Microsoft and I could tell that he was starting to get wise as I asked him if he could give me his address and phone number “just in case it goes wrong” and the call ended quickly when I added that I worked for Microsoft and so was curious about a few of the things that he’d just been telling me.

I wasn’t perhaps the ideal candidate for this kind of phone scam and it’s easy to have a laugh at the scammers expense but I can see how it would be very easy to fall for if you’re having some kind of computer trouble and the phone happens to ring at the same time with someone who says “Microsoft” a lot and offers to “help” Sad smile

With that in mind, here’s a “message from our sponsor” providing a legitimate place to go to look for computer security issues for the home user;

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Posted Wed, Jan 26 2011 4:22 PM by mtaulty
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Comments

Jeff Farnsworth wrote re: “Hello! Hello!”–Fake Microsoft Virus Phone Calls (logmein123.com)
on Wed, Jan 26 2011 8:07 PM

Too funny, thanks for the story Mike!

Darren Oster wrote re: “Hello! Hello!”–Fake Microsoft Virus Phone Calls (logmein123.com)
on Wed, Jan 26 2011 9:06 PM

I also got a call from these guys.  When I questioned how they knew that I had a computer, how they knew it was running Windows and how they knew I had viruses on it (all concerns of privacy), I was told that I could "Go to Hell" and they hung up.  Nice, eh?

Samuel Jack wrote re: “Hello! Hello!”–Fake Microsoft Virus Phone Calls (logmein123.com)
on Wed, Jan 26 2011 9:32 PM

Very interesting. My Dad got caught out by one of these scams. But he actually did give them remote access to his PC. And when they suggested he go make himself a cup of tea because the next step "might take some time", he did!

I suggested it might be a good idea if they not do any internet banking on the PC until I had wiped it and reinstalled Windows!

Dave Wilson wrote re: “Hello! Hello!”–Fake Microsoft Virus Phone Calls (logmein123.com)
on Fri, Jan 28 2011 4:26 PM

Maybe you could inform police, I got the call from them as well. Too bad I'm software developer and this guy wouldn't even tell me what is the company name just kept on repeating they are MS associates and trained by MS which lead me to drop the phone.  

If you google the problem it costs around £200 to get your computer fixed with them.

Steve wrote re: “Hello! Hello!”–Fake Microsoft Virus Phone Calls (logmein123.com)
on Tue, Feb 1 2011 12:09 PM

The trouble is that governments and police do not do enough to prosecute these kind of people. They make a great living... better than working for a living. As long as there's no police back-up they will continue. Surely too the registrar/ISPs should immediately take down the domains?

Rick wrote re: “Hello! Hello!”–Fake Microsoft Virus Phone Calls (logmein123.com)
on Wed, Feb 9 2011 4:46 PM

My sister just had the same call today, Feb 9/2011. Lucky for her she was just going out but they said they will call again tomorrow. I may go to her house and answer the phone for her. I have a terrible hearing defect and I tend to shout a lot ;) should be fun. 'Hello, hello'

Rosemarie wrote re: “Hello! Hello!”–Fake Microsoft Virus Phone Calls (logmein123.com)
on Fri, Feb 18 2011 11:28 AM

Got one of those phone calls tonight 18th Feb 2011, wanted me to sit down in front of the computer, told him was busy making dinner wanted to call back and I said no, he sounded indian or something like that, I would like to know how he got my phone number and name. Don't trust anyone who calls

C- wrote re: “Hello! Hello!”–Fake Microsoft Virus Phone Calls (logmein123.com)
on Sun, Feb 27 2011 1:10 AM

Just ended my call with Hello Hello...you have a computer problem. Real problem was they asked for me by a previous name (phone list at least 9 years old!!!!!).  I led them on for awhile, "sat in front of my computer, amazed he knew I had a problem, gee he must be smarter than me (I think he ate that up as he started talking slightly faster in his thick accent - claimed he's from Dubai).  After about a minute I asked if I would need to turn the computer on :)  he said yes.  gave me the logmein123 site.  I acted like I did it, then informed him it turned out the problem was he used a name that didn't exist anymore.  I would have strung him on longer to reduce calls he could make, but once I explained didn't exist like deceased he didn't want to help me anymore :(

aussie wrote re: “Hello! Hello!”–Fake Microsoft Virus Phone Calls (logmein123.com)
on Sat, Mar 5 2011 6:45 AM

I just got off the phone to these guys, they called my father in laws house and I just happened to be there. He loves calls from telemarketers & scammers so he continued to lead them on for around half an hour while I listened in. Until we got to the log on to a technician page on the www.logmein123 page. I then took over the conversation while I searched for blogs about logmein123.com and hence got onto your page. Good work Mike! I continued to question the senior senior techician for an additional half an hour and then hung up. They even called back? I also told them to get stuffed and hung up again. They rang back again and wanted to know if we were interested in proceeding?

BTW they are now claiming that they are from WIndows not Microsoft as Microsoft made computers and had nothing to do with Windows. When quetioned they said that they worked on behalf of Windows.

Anyway it was a very good scamming call and it seems they have improved their techniques. We lll need to send out info emails to friends etc about the scam as this will spread the www very quickly.

Anonymous wrote re: “Hello! Hello!”–Fake Microsoft Virus Phone Calls (logmein123.com)
on Sat, Mar 19 2011 2:20 AM

had one yesterday 18 March 2011 from these ppl then they changed there story and said they from the police well when asked for any form of bage number or something the phone was put down. Bunch of idiots.

Anonymous wrote re: “Hello! Hello!”–Fake Microsoft Virus Phone Calls (logmein123.com)
on Thu, Mar 24 2011 11:06 AM

I just had one of these - 24th March. Quite convincing - but did talk about Windows and Mocrosoft. We have recenly moved and I am still a bit spooked about how he could have my name and new number. I did everything he asked until he wanted me to type in the logmein thing, then I said I would make notes and do it later as how did I know I could trust him. Got a bit stroppy with me at that point and we ended the call.